tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post5490904341670673864..comments2024-03-01T12:13:55.402+00:00Comments on 1963 Eastern Hills High School EHHS Highlanders: The EHHS Social Order – 8.3 – Our Swimming PoolsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-91739870312691299292016-08-06T21:44:34.650+01:002016-08-06T21:44:34.650+01:00Gus, I have that information now on sorority girls...Gus, I have that information now on sorority girls at TCU, at least what appeared for the annual of 1962-1963:<br /><br />Kappa Kappa Gamma - Carol Reeder<br /><br />Chi Omega - Zoe Ann Hunter<br /><br />Zeta Tau Alpha - Debra Davis, Margaret Ferrell<br /><br />Delta Gamma - Taddie Curl, Jackie Rogers, Judy Mallicote<br /><br />Alpha Delta Pi - Jackie Nantz, Donna Payne, Linda Hawkins<br /><br />There might have been others whose pictures didn't appear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-70610649268355999232016-07-22T04:42:54.997+01:002016-07-22T04:42:54.997+01:00Yes, that TCU yearbook would be interesting. I th...Yes, that TCU yearbook would be interesting. I think the entire notion of greek memberships were pretty unusual on our side of town. Ours was a much more modest neighborhood and only recently built out. Whatever knowledge of the greeks almost certainly came from the Poly direction and indirectly from Paschal an AHHS and those probably due to parent marriages between the school grads of an earlier generation. <br />Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-77850164780066489032016-07-19T22:33:08.212+01:002016-07-19T22:33:08.212+01:00I can get access to a TCU yearbook for the school ...I can get access to a TCU yearbook for the school year 1962-1963. That would show Eastern Hills graduates for 1962 and before. I could scan over the sorority pages to see if any EHHS girls were there.<br /><br />Would that be of any help to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-10820279885341655492016-06-27T19:43:00.078+01:002016-06-27T19:43:00.078+01:00Thanks for the explanation Gus. You know, I've...Thanks for the explanation Gus. You know, I've heard almost nothing from anyone in our classes about sorority membership. But we heard almost nothing about Thaelis, either, did we? I guess all these girls knew something that was only important among themselves. <br /><br />Appreciate your bringing out all these hidden aspects of our high school social life. It always seemed like most of it was hidden to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-42319578134965372232016-06-27T17:53:35.844+01:002016-06-27T17:53:35.844+01:00Those UT sorority articles were added within the p...Those UT sorority articles were added within the past year. The dates are misleading because I occasionally use open dates in the early years of the blog to post something intended to be passed to someone with whom I’ve been in private communication. Or, I will use those early dates to “store” some information I’m not yet ready to use.<br /><br />As I’ve been closing in on the Thaelis final treatment, I’ve been looking into who might have gone on into college sororities. I had the UT experience for a couple of years before departing for CA so, that was an easy starting point. But, not many of our EH class went into the greeks there so, I suspect that TCU got most of them…but, I don’t have that 1964-65 yearbook(s). <br /><br />There were 2 articles about the (Big ) UT sororities…”Sisterhood” you found; the other deals with “That Certain Look” and describes the personal characteristics of each of those Big 6. Both articles are spot-on accurate for that time…that was my experience.<br /><br />At present, the significance of those sorority articles is only as an indicator of how many and which of our early EH Thaelis girls became members of those same sororities. Again, I would expect to find many more of them in the TCU sororities. More applicable to the EH study would be to discover which of the mothers were also members in their college days. <br /><br />The "labels" in the right side bar function as a collection tool to gather all the articles I've marked with that label. Using those labels significantly reduces the amount of material for review.Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-10586972214842536872016-06-22T20:54:59.984+01:002016-06-22T20:54:59.984+01:00DO NOT PUBLISH
The unexpected death of Dennis Mc...DO NOT PUBLISH<br /><br /><br />The unexpected death of Dennis McCarty (EHHS 1962) last fall enables a broadening of the Brandt-Childs discussion, since it removes a living witness of that earlier era from the possible discomfort of commentary and speculation. The father of Dennis was Lester (Les) McCarty, who was an active real estate promoter and developer, particularly in the area of small strip shopping centers. It is said that he was the developer of that strip center at the corner of Weiler and Meadowbrook, that had Whittington's pharmacy near one end and Pat's Barbecue at the other.<br /><br />Les McCarty was the partner of George and James Childs in the original development of the Childs Subdivision, which was bounded by Weiler on the east, Vinewood on the south and west, and Blue Ridge on the north. In 1955-56, Les McCarty and his family moved into a new house at 1608 Vinewood, at the north end of that subdivision and just off the corner of Blue Ridge to the east. That put the McCartys very close to that missing swimming pool that I've mentioned earlier.<br /><br />There was a large signature house in that area that had been built earlier as part of the inception of the Childs Subdivision development. No doubt it was used to attract the interest and imagination of additional residents. I mentioned the house once before. These originators of the Childs Subdivision were all known to each other in that commercial-industrial area near the later Beach Street crossing of East Lancaster, and also at the State Bank of East Fort Worth in Poly.<br /><br />In one of my earlier messages, I alluded to a "Childs-related party"<br />occupying a small office building on East Lancaster, not far from the Childs Construction HQ (which was, and still is, at 2716 E. Lancaster). That person was Lester McCarty. He had earlier been located in the Childs HQ itself. Also in that small office building was L. D. Conatser, who I have described before, and who bought (or appropriated) that house from Bill Elliott at 1613 Azteca.<br /><br />Although I have no proof of it yet, I think that the Childs Subdivision in the early 1950's predated the Miller-McClung compound on Meadowbrook, with its highly visible swimming pool. If there was some social competition taken up by the McClungs during that period it would not surprise me at all.<br /><br />There still exists on the TAD site sufficient information on the earlier owners of the Childs Subdivision to sort all this out, remembering that they also had children at Meadowbrook and EHHS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-22356587527005862242016-06-18T23:44:32.303+01:002016-06-18T23:44:32.303+01:00Finding your article on "Sisterhood" as ...Finding your article on "Sisterhood" as one of the very first articles<br />posted on your blogsite, in March of 2006, was astounding. The article had no apparent connection at all with EHHS. Five years later, you finally posted a somewhat definitive article on Thaelis, which could lead a thoughtful person to make a connection, but your earlier posting of the "Sisterhood" article represents you as having some extraordinary forethought, planning, and patience capabilities.<br />Are we to infer, in retrospect, that your "Sisterhood" posting constitutes some kind of "mission statement"? And doesn't it also give an unusually singular significance to the article?<br /><br />What's going on here? I suppose it all goes to show that things are not always what they appear to be on an anonymously hosted blogsite.<br /><br />Posting fluidity is certainly your prerogative, but it renders your blogsite as a secondary source rather than a primary one. I suppose that you'll eventually find the most appropriate location for the article, and whatever it is will be fine with me.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-22189110652569181002016-06-16T23:46:23.120+01:002016-06-16T23:46:23.120+01:00You apparently have more than a passing interest i...You apparently have more than a passing interest in UT sororities, to have posted these articles so early in your blog. Does your "experience" have something to do with that? Was that the start of your curiosity about the formative social order for such girls at EHHS?<br /><br />Completely missed these articles in my earlier browsing of your blog. I notice that you now have them as "trailers" in your article on Thaelis. Didn't see them there before.<br /><br />Didn't understand what you mean by another article "by the same author".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-46816651992379743172016-06-15T06:05:25.401+01:002016-06-15T06:05:25.401+01:00I have the article you mention plus one other by t...I have the article you mention plus one other by the same author that discusses the types of girl that pledged to each of the houses. Both are located in the early pages (years) of the blog. As you mentioned, both are excellent and spot on with regard to my experience.Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-41106452422658968812016-05-31T19:35:14.066+01:002016-05-31T19:35:14.066+01:00I see that you're back on the Internet, more o...I see that you're back on the Internet, more or less.<br /><br />Last fall I sent you this message and I intended it for general publication; that is, I wanted the information available to your readership, if anyone were interested. I would appreciate it if you could put it out that way:<br /><br />I have a reference now on that article I read on UT sorority life years ago. It was by Prudence Mackintosh writing for Texas Monthly Magazine and appeared in the September 1976 issue. Prudence Mackintosh was a member of Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority there in the early 1960's. Very well written, and entertaining, as I recall. The title of the article was "Sisterhood is Powerful".<br /><br /> <br /><br />This is NOT the anthology called "Sisterhood is Powerful" edited by Robin Morgan and put out in 1970, which was a radical female chauvinist tract and probably required reading for Hilary Clinton and other graduates of Wellesley, Sarah Lawrence, etc. at the time.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-90189735718853330662015-11-07T23:22:58.841+00:002015-11-07T23:22:58.841+00:00I have a reference now on that article I read on U...I have a reference now on that article I read on UT sorority life years ago. It was by Prudence Mackintosh writing for Texas Monthly Magazine and appeared in the September 1976 issue. Prudence Mackintosh was a member of Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority there in the early 1960's. Very well written, and entertaining, as I recall. The title of the article was "Sisterhood is Powerful".<br /><br />This is NOT the anthology called "Sisterhood is Powerful" edited by Robin Morgan and put out in 1970, which was a radical female chauvinist tract and probably required reading for Hilary Clinton<br />and other graduates of Wellesley, Sarah Lawrence, etc. at the time. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-43678668594312894182015-10-28T21:49:27.222+00:002015-10-28T21:49:27.222+00:00Your source would be of interest...maybe you can f...Your source would be of interest...maybe you can find it sometime.<br /><br />I wrote a short piece and illustrated it with some good pictures related to the Miss Fort Worth contest. Both Susan Begley and Celia Beall competed our senior year. Were there any '62 or '61 entrants from EHHS? LINK: http://63highlanders.blogspot.com/2011/10/miss-fort-worth-1963-1964.htmlGushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-10796050730197984182015-10-26T22:13:45.992+00:002015-10-26T22:13:45.992+00:00My knowledge of sorority life at UT was substantia...My knowledge of sorority life at UT was substantially gleaned from an article I read about it years ago, and I'll be able to give you a source reference on that by-and-by.<br /><br />In the meantime, I do know this just from comments I've heard over the years --<br /><br />Down at UT, I think our Celia Beall (Thaelis of 1963) was in Alpha Delta Pi, and Susan Warriner (Thaelis of 1964) was in Kappa Kappa Gamma. That's in addition to the standard string of ZTA girls as you've mentioned. An interesting sideline on Celia Beall was that she was in the Miss Fort Worth contest of 1963, along with Susan Begley.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-28551909339050300342015-09-30T15:26:48.502+01:002015-09-30T15:26:48.502+01:00Interesting info about Ray and Jan. Did't kno...Interesting info about Ray and Jan. Did't know Ray but did know Jan fairly well...smart, reserved, and usually upbeat. She was another of the few who moved a bit out of the ZTA box; she was XO at UT; the only one I know of. Perhaps you know, there was a "big six" at UT...Pi Phi, ZTA, XO, KKG, KATheta, Tri-Delts. Quite a social sorting machine, wasn't it? Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-85273903340905406312015-09-28T22:45:49.034+01:002015-09-28T22:45:49.034+01:00Sometime within the past two weeks I was looking a...Sometime within the past two weeks I was looking at the standard class pictures in the Clans from 1960 and 1961 and I noticed how dark the backgrounds were (particularly in the 1960 version) and how common, almost drab, the picture quality of the faces was. Then I noticed that a few were quite different - the backgrounds were clear, and the faces had an almost sparkling quality. I completely agree!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-90267498395448949992015-09-28T19:08:37.820+01:002015-09-28T19:08:37.820+01:00With regard to some of the youngsters benefitting ...With regard to some of the youngsters benefitting from supportive parental input, whether by use of parental friends and acquaintances having positions in local media, there is ample evidence of that having happened on a fairly extensive yet, subtle basis. The notion of our having been engaged in our own competitive contests with classmates on a purely equal footing was not accurate. <br /><br />Older parents, say 10-15 years older (b.1910-1915) than my younger ones (b.1917-1924), could often bring to the job of raising their young (us), that much more life experience of their own. That translated (and translates) into an unspecified accumulation of “tricks of the trade” that only experience can bring. Knowledge of and effective use of local media would be one of those advantages available to a few. Parents having achieved higher education, whether via the GI Bill or otherwise, would very likely possess some additional skills including a somewhat higher order thinking ability. That would have been helpful for planning ahead for some of our peers’ future opportunities.<br /><br />Another very subtle thing I’ve picked up in the class pictures, including those that were published in the MJH “Meadowlark” was that some of the more “enlightened” young ladies appear to have had their portraits taken by a more skilled photographer than the one supplied by the school for those mass class shoots. I took a look at the Soph and Jr. pictures in a 1960 CLAN this morning and started laughing…if you have a copy, take a closer look and see if you can pick up the differences and who was involved. They’re all the same!<br /><br />Add-in having control of the student publications and it’s easy to see what was going on.<br />Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-60140956381735803602015-09-16T23:59:36.194+01:002015-09-16T23:59:36.194+01:00Melinda on Bella Vista is correct...I never got do...Melinda on Bella Vista is correct...I never got down that far on Blueridge to recall much of what else was down there.<br /><br />Pat N. in '61 is a yes.<br /><br />Elise is the only name I have and there is no picture in the '60 CLAN. In fact, there are 7 picture omissions from the CLAN for that first year group.<br /><br />Your '62 class was apparently a rambunctious one on the girls side of the page. I've had several imputs not necessarily pointing out anyone, but strongly suggesting some kind of not-so-niceness was going on. Omissions from the CLAN and/or unearned recognitions were apparently somewhat common. A little of that also occurred in our '63 version and were done in such a way that belies a simple oversight as explanation. Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-7044015424995655422015-09-16T19:54:01.025+01:002015-09-16T19:54:01.025+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-2381631489119440022015-09-16T19:08:08.353+01:002015-09-16T19:08:08.353+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-2314183687195375032015-09-16T18:45:03.653+01:002015-09-16T18:45:03.653+01:00Melinda’s house was tucked away on the lower part ...Melinda’s house was tucked away on the lower part of Blueridge, I think…overlooked the golf course and was small compared to others that were built later.<br /><br />Both of the Oak Hill houses have listed and sold in recent months. If you look for them you may still find some fairly extensive sales materials describing them. August died in 1961 so, it’s unclear in my mind how much he may have had to do with development. Son Paul’s house was the rambling modern one and was on the west side of Oak Hill as I recall it. Pop’s was a ranch style home that sat off the (east side) road at the end of a long drive up a small hill. I’ll see if I can find the addresses.<br /><br />Any solid information about the early founding of the MBrook CC would be a real find. BTW, that 5200 block of Meadowbrook Drive is about the same area as a couple of those first Thaelis girls lived. Information about the early development of Central Meadowbrook in that area would be revealing since a lot of our classmates lived there and most moved in during the late 1940s to early 1950s. That area including Jenson, Green Hill Circle, etc. and the semi-circular streets right across from the school predated the start of Eastern Hills development by 2-3 years and was also the home of many of the early Thaelis girls….by the 1960 induction of our 1963 girls, essentially none of them lived any further west than those neighborhoods. <br />Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-33832107774395077452015-09-16T18:44:57.268+01:002015-09-16T18:44:57.268+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-48624572507811072062015-09-15T19:10:13.298+01:002015-09-15T19:10:13.298+01:00You mention that a newspaper had you representing ...You mention that a newspaper had you representing a "calendar event". Did they have you dressed up as Santa Claus? Once again you were appearing anonymously ...<br /><br />You're getting a little closer with mention of Melinda Mallon. But even she might not have known about the pool. In any event, didn't she live in the neighborhood just west of the school? Not in Eastern Hills proper. But she's long since deceased, and I barely knew her.<br /><br />I've heard about a Brandt house on Oak Hill with a kind of custom, modernistic design, with a lot of glass in it. I think it's still there, too. But my impression is that both Brandt houses are on the east side of Oak Hill.<br /><br />I've recently got information that the Brandts might have been original subscribing members of the private Meadowbrook Country Club (or golf club), along with some well-known figures from the west side of town. It's not clear what actually happened when the club passed into city hands, in the mid-1930's, that is with respect to the property boundaries and the owners around it. That Brandt location over around the 5200 block of Meadowbrook might have been a residual family holding of theirs, which they later developed into Jensen, Green Hill Circle, etc., continuing to live there themselves.<br /><br />Hold out the possibility that there might have been a Thaelis family connection with a newspaper or publicity organization in downtown FW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-24493626532630038132015-09-13T17:59:00.403+01:002015-09-13T17:59:00.403+01:00There are two Brandt pools, one on either side of ...There are two Brandt pools, one on either side of Oak Hill, a father and son. The east side house that was on open acreage when we were at EH and sat way back from the road belonged to the father and founder of the furniture company. That house may not have had a pool then and was probably built sometime in the 1940s, maybe a little before. Neither of those families figured much in our social life as they seemed and were in a different sphere than most of us living in 3-1-1 or 3-2-2 or smaller houses. <br /><br />That east side house still stands and is now completely surrounded with neighborhoods, although I think it may still be on an oversize lot, perhaps an acre. Brandt Sr. would have most likely been the one that owned all the land that the EH neighborhood subsequently sat on. I think he died during the time we were attending EH and his interests taken over by his two sons; the second of them living in a house down on Meadowbrook Drive somewhere, maybe the 4500 block or thereabouts.<br /><br />This mysterious private pool still puzzles and perhaps I just didn’t know the student. Melinda Mallon ’62 was suggested to me but, I didn’t know her. I think she ran with the ’62 in-crowd girls, though.<br /><br />I noted the S-T and FWP attention to the East Side area myself; in fact, as a new arrival they put a picture of me in as illustration of some kind of calendar event…that would have probably been Fall 1959. One thing worth considering was that 2 recent Poly grads, about ’58 or a bit earlier joined the S-T and the FWP as fledgling writers and copy boys. I’ve traded a lot of conversation with one of them and believe that one possible reason the East Side youth activities got the coverage it did may well have been on their account…they were both local boys and knew the area very well. I think both of them went through MJHigh. Interestingly, both of them expressed the opinion that Poly’s rapid decline was largely due to the opening of EH and that may be partly true. <br />Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-37001287657996441752015-09-12T22:46:38.619+01:002015-09-12T22:46:38.619+01:00I had noticed that "Brandt" pool (which ...I had noticed that "Brandt" pool (which looks like an extremely nice one) on your website already, and figured that it was on the opposite side of Oak Hill and therefore didn't qualify exactly as an "Eastern Hills" pool.<br /><br />That is still not the discreet one I had in mind, but it's not that important at this point to pursue the issue, just to keep in mind that it existed. I have some reason to think that a competition developed in the minds of certain people at one time regarding the existence of that pool in comparison with one or more others in the neighborhood.<br /><br />I do remember that the pool on Meadowbrook Drive was shown in a particular article in the Fort Worth Star Telegram (probably not the Fort Worth Press) in the summer of 1959 (or possibly before in the summer of 1958). There was a picture of the swimming pool with five or six boys and girls around it, who were named. I never understood exactly why the article appeared, just assumed that such things happened now and then in that section of the newspaper. It was just presented as a social gathering of some sort, by invitation of course. I took notice of it because it was in our east side neighborhood, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other people noticed it, too. The article had no apparent commercial content.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23936398.post-63084689249055033252015-09-10T00:44:25.902+01:002015-09-10T00:44:25.902+01:00I hadn't included it since she was a couple of...I hadn't included it since she was a couple of years younger and not on my screen until our 1963 senior year when she came in as a Soph. Even then, she was a skinny little kid, but cute enough to hold a space in memory, though. By then Girl #3, decidedly not a skinny young woman, was holding me hopelessly enthralled. <br />Gushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743830912124085924noreply@blogger.com